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No spoilers here, just a question. Why do people think that everything the Doctor says is the truth? There are some times when he is CLEARLY joking...



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Date: Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
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Date: Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 11:33 am (UTC)
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I thought it was clearly RTD fucking with the fans, which amused me no end.

Date: Monday, November 23rd, 2009 10:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rankersbo.wordpress.com
I laughed for that. It won't annoy anyone who doesn't darly deserve to be annoyed.

Date: Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 12:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] very-true-thing.livejournal.com
Genre-savvy fans may have been exposed to arc-heavy shows like Babylon 5 or Heroes where important events or backstory are foreshadowed\revealed in trivial pieces of dialogue. Insert the argument about Doctor Who not being the same genre as those shows here...

Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Mr Saxon, etc., are Doctor Who's heavy handed attempts at doing the same and have made some fans scrutinise things too much (as if anything was needed to make some fans do that). (And RTD likes fucking with the minds of this group of fans, see also Jack = Face of Boe.)

The "everything must be shown" mentality ("gimme time war mini series with McGann and Eccleston now!") amongst certain fans means that the Queen Elizabeth gag from two seasons ago MUST be explained before the Doctor regenerates. Sigh. (Again RTD, who sometimes realises that it's better not to explain or show everything, is not beyond fucking with the minds of this sort of fan.)

More interestingly from a storytelling point of view, the new show has developed the concept of the Doctor to the point where the idea that he is capable of doing almost anything is important. RTD is exploring the bad side of that concept in the specials whilst the Moff has previously tended to explore the lighter side.

So, maybe he was babbling, but maybe he was telling the truth. And why not? "He's the Doctor, he can do anything!" or "He's the Time Lord Triumphant, he really can do anything..." depending on his mood.

I must have been lucky, most of the reactions I've seen have been LOLs rather than flailings.

Date: Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] http://www.nickbarlow.com/blog/
Because there's a certain type of fan - and as was stated above, it tends to be fans of a certain type of show who then expect Who to follow all the rules of a genre its never considered itself to be part of - who need everything explained and don't like ambiguity or subjectivity in storytelling.

Though I've missed the Who fanstorms by avoiding most fan forums after the thousandth 'Gallifrey/the Rani/Sgt Benton/Pertwee-era comedy yokels are definitely returning in the next special' thread.

Though for real 'we no like ambiguity' fights, Stargate fans are fun at the moment...

Date: Monday, November 23rd, 2009 10:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rankersbo.wordpress.com
It's the "canon" fans.

It's playing the game of trying to make everything fit together logically, and then becoming confused and thinking it's the point.

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