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Entry tags:birthdays, doctorwho
Poll #5452 Moffat's "sexism"
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Christmas Doctor Who had an actual woman in a refrigerator because....

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Moffat really is that clueless about sexist scifi tropes
19 (55.9%)

Moffat thought "well if they're going to accuse me of being sexist..."
15 (44.1%)



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pickwick: (you like to watch)


[personal profile] pickwick
2010-12-27 02:07 pm UTC (link)
Ha, that didn't actually register with me. Fail.

(Happy birthday!)

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matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (MatGB)


[personal profile] matgb
2010-12-27 02:19 pm UTC (link)
I'm wondering if it was deliberate, and an attempt to subvert the trope?

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innerbrat: (...)


[personal profile] innerbrat
2010-12-27 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Why? The trope wasn't in the slightest bit subverted.

If I were judging its deliberation, I would look for the following clues:

- some sort of reference to the DC Uinverse in which the trope originated.
- some sort of demnstration of the man's reaction after her death.
- the dead woman's body being in the fridge after she died.

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gominokouhai: (pajh)


[personal profile] gominokouhai
2010-12-27 02:29 pm UTC (link)
It's the opposite of the fridge trope, shirley. They took her /out/ of the fridge. Several times.

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perlmonger: (dr who)


[personal profile] perlmonger
2010-12-27 02:44 pm UTC (link)
They kept her in the fridge, taking her out when they felt convenient. It's not as though they knew about her shelf life at that point.

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davegodfrey: South Park Me. (Liff)


[personal profile] davegodfrey
2010-12-27 06:40 pm UTC (link)
I think in the context of the story it makes sense why they kept putting her back in the fridge- Karzan Snr would be wondering why his "security" is walking around singing to the fish. Wake her up, give her a good time, pop her back before anyone notices, and feel like you're doing something fun, naughty, and subversive all at the same time.

But I wasn't particularly impressed though.

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gominokouhai: (pajh)


[personal profile] gominokouhai
2010-12-28 03:37 pm UTC (link)
She knew. And as soon as she told Kazran he stopped doing it. For her benefit.

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shishmish: (Avengers - Loki)


[personal profile] shishmish
2010-12-27 02:45 pm UTC (link)
I am resisting the urge to go onto Tv Tropes now. And if I do, I'm blaming you!

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daweaver:   (suileile)

Having not seen the episode in question...


[personal profile] daweaver
2010-12-27 06:16 pm UTC (link)
I can confidently say that I have no clue what on earth any of you are talking about, and hence have no opinion on the question asked. Cor, I'm never going to make a good policitian, is I?

That said, I do wish to associate myself with the general good wishes and festivities in miss_s_b's direction. Happy birthday, and much much love.

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[personal profile] sassy_scot
2010-12-27 06:33 pm UTC (link)
There were men in fridges too. They could have defrosted one of the Three Tenors and had it sing to the shark, but I'm not sure it would have been the same. And no, I would have had absolutely no objection whatever if Kazran had fallen in love with a bloke from a freezer.

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lizw: photo of brown leafless tree with text "winter" (winter)


[personal profile] lizw
2010-12-28 12:54 pm UTC (link)
I think that would have been rather wonderful.

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londonkds: (No peroxide required!)


[personal profile] londonkds
2010-12-27 07:28 pm UTC (link)
Happy birthday!

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spiderplanet: (spider)


[personal profile] spiderplanet
2010-12-29 01:48 am UTC (link)
Holy cow! I didn't catch that and now I feel a bit foolish for missing it. Yes, you're right of course.

I'm pretty sure I could mark off a few on my bingo card with "There were men in fridges too." and "It was an attempt to subvert the trope."

1 - Google "But men are drawn unrealistically too!"
2 - Episodic television that only barely passes the Bechdel Test is not attempting to subvert anything.

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von_geisterhand: (comic, undercut)


[personal profile] von_geisterhand
2010-12-29 01:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I had somehow blocked out the fact that Moffat wrote "Dr. Who". Having just watched "Jekyll", I probably should finally get round to "Who". (Big fan of "Coupling", me. ;-)

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el_staplador: (teapot)


[personal profile] el_staplador
2010-12-29 07:30 pm UTC (link)
I failed to notice that Abigail was a woman - because I was too busy trying to remember from which Philip K. Dick short story the Moff pinched the counting-down refrigerators. (In the story, whichever it is, there are all sorts of people in the fridges; I can remember very little else about it - but it wouldn't surprise me if he remembered the story and failed to recognise it as a trope.)

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