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Date: Tuesday, March 20th, 2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] po8crg
I worry about the maxim "don't feed the troll". While it's certainly good advice for the victim

Y'see the problem with this is that "troll" has changed it's meaning since the maxim was coined.

.... wavy lines ....

Once upon a time, there was USEnet. USEnet was an unmoderated discussion forum. Completely unmoderated until 1995, and then only for spam.

People on USEnet would come into a forum and say things that were off-topic, highly controversial, and which resulted in people having big arguments. A common example was gun control.

These were the original trolls, and the right thing to do was ignore them - if you didn't feed the troll, then they went to a different group where people got wound up more easily.

.... wavy lines ....

By the c.1995 definition of "troll", ignoring them worked. It's like the way to treat your local wind-up artist; once you stop getting wound up, they go on to easier prey.

Modern usage, which I haven't really got caught up with, is that troll = personal abuser. To my 1995 mind, that's a flamer, not a troll.

Flamers are a much nastier species than trolls. Not feeding them doesn't really work; they need to be dealt with much more forcefully.

Date: Tuesday, March 20th, 2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gwenhwyfaer
I can't help thinking that far from being a tool to get lots of people from all kinds of diverse backgrounds talking, the internet has ended up as a means of consolidating cliquery and groupthink as never before. You can always find someone who agrees with you to hang out with online; but if you're someone who has a habit of going "hang on a minute" in just about any situation, it's very easy to end up out in the cold, and very hard to find your way back from that.

Date: Wednesday, March 21st, 2012 08:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] po8crg
Sorry about the mansplaining. Sometimes I just can't help it.

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