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http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/88fhchg0tf/YG-Archives-FictionalCharactersVoting-050412.pdf

So YouGov did a survey on which party people think various fictional characters would vote for. From the little I know, I would suspect most of them are correct, but I want to talk about the one I know is definitely false, and the one I think is probably wrong.

Firstly, Victor Meldrew is definitely a Labour voter. This is canonical, he talks about it in the show, he reads the Daily Mirror onscreen on a regular basis, and in one episode is shown roundly abusing a Tory canvassar, and in another episode castigating a Tory politician in a hospital. So why do the majority of people think of him as a Tory?

There's a definite stereotype effect going on; most of the Tories are characters people don't like, or love to hate, and most of the Labour characters are seen as good fun but a bit thick. The one Lib Dem is the Vicar of Dibley - worthy, does good works and makes people happier, but is ultimately pretty powerless and someone to feel sorry for. So I think people put Victor Meldrew as a Tory because he's so bloody grumpy, and people see him as selfishly grumpy - but he's totally not. He's a tireless crusader against injustice, not just for himself, but for others (see the episode set in the Old People's home), and he has the Labourite's unshakeable conviction that the government ought to sort things out.

The other one that I think is a bit off is the Doctor. The biggest result for him is "wouldn't vote", which is probably correct, because I think the timelord maxim of non interference still has SOME traction on him... But then the next biggest is Green LOL! The Doctor is a scientist. The Greens, despite their hearts being in the right place, are totally wedded to woo. Add to that their occasional authoritarian tendencies and... no, the Doctor is a Lib Dem. I shall stubbornly cling to that belief.

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Ken Barlow's not a Tory - he used to be quite a firebrand leftie in his younger days.

As for the Doctor... depends on which Doctor (and what era of time). I could see Pat Troughton's Doctor being quite enthusiastic about the 60s Wilson government, what with the general social liberalism and the White Heat of Technology and giving MBEs to the Beatles and so on. Pertwee's Doctor is definitely a One Nation Tory, but him I *could* see voting Green actually, in that sort of right-wing aristocratic-environmentalist way (think the Goldsmith family and those sort of people). Hartnell's Doctor is a Liberal of the old school. Tom Baker's Doctor is clearly an anarchist, and probably spoiled his ballot or voted for a joke candidate like the Monster Raving Loonies. Davison's agonised for a long time but saw voting as a civic duty, and ended up voting SDP. Colin's Doctor was definitely a Liberal/Lib Dem - I bet if he had a blog it'd be very like Jonathan Calder's, but angrier. Sylvester's Doctor would have been a tactical anti-Tory voter. The McGann Doctor would vote seventeen different ways in different continuities, before getting amnesia and forgetting who he'd voten for. And all the Welsh Series Doctors are New Labour.

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miss_s_b: (feminist heroes: oracle)


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I avoid Corrie, so...

I think you're a bit harsh on the Welsh series - Sure, Tennant is New Labour, but I don't think Ecclescake or Smith are.

James points out that McCoy would go back in time many times to make sure everything was in place for people to vote for him ;)

He also says, which I agree with, that Del Boy is an archetypal working class Tory.

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Eccles is Old Labour, but in the Prescott type of way that's just New Labour with a Northern accent. Smith... actually, he's probably Lib Dem, you're right.

McCoy's Doctor wouldn't want people voting for him - a job like Prime Minister would be nowhere near powerful enough for him. I *could* see him as a Sir Humphrey figure, though, wielding the real power, with just a touch of Francis Urquhart, the Patrician and Peter Mandelson thrown in.

Of course Del Boy's a Tory. Anyone who thinks differently hasn't thought about it for five seconds.

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miss_s_b: (Politics: FU)


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Del Boy is poor, therefore must vote Labour I think is the "thought" process people have followed.

McCoy and FU....? Hmmm...

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[identity profile] ggreig.livejournal.com
2012-04-05 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Eccleston's SNP, because he'd want another place to have a north!

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Tom's Dctor - i think it depends on where in his reign you're talking about. Hinchcliffe Tom would have spoiled his ballot paper. Graham Williams Tom would have been a joke candidate. Nathan-Turner Tom would have sulked. And it would have been irrelevant who McCoy's Doctor voted for, as a subsequent Doctor would have spent huge amounts of effort making sure that the right candidate won and left a note telling McCoy about it.

And Troughton would have blown up the polling station.

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:09 pm UTC (link)
On reflection, while Troughton was blowing up the polling station, Jamie would have said "Look at the size of that one, Doctor!", and the mighty Trout would have responded, "Yes, it is a big one, isn't it?" (Insert Eric Pickles joke here).

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:10 pm UTC (link)
I've often half-wondered if it's the Smith Doctor who goes back and does all that stuff for McCoy, seems like his style (though of course in The Kingmaker it's Eccleston).

Tom's Doctor in the Williams years would have been a joke candidate *and won*.

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:12 pm UTC (link)
Yes, and he'd have been quite horrified when he realised he'd won.

Hartnell on the other hand would have loved it.

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:17 pm UTC (link)
You're right about Hartnell. He would have had the same giggle he had when he caused the Fire Of Rome.

Tom's Doctor would have been horrified at first, but quickly grown to love bossing people around, before finding a way to get out of all the actual responsibilities of being an MP without losing the title and the ability to boss people around.

Wait... does that mean George Galloway is secretly the Fourth Doctor?!

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:19 pm UTC (link)
It's all a bit Invasion of Time, isn't it?

As for your comment about the newly elected saviour of Bradford, I have nothing to say.

Other than "George's putting it in now."

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miss_s_b: (feminist heroes: oracle)


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:24 pm UTC (link)
BAD BAD JAMES. BAD AND WRONG.

* hunts desperately for the brain bleach *

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:33 pm UTC (link)
Is there a "single raised eyebrow" emoticon?

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:34 pm UTC (link)
~_^

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miss_s_b: (Who: Six (S.P.C./Eyebrow))


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:43 pm UTC (link)
You asked for it...

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:50 pm UTC (link)
Thank you.

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[personal profile] andrewducker
2012-04-05 08:16 pm UTC (link)
How, exactly, am I supposed to get that out of my head?

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 08:18 pm UTC (link)
With difficulty, Andrew, with difficulty.

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