miss_s_b: (feminist heroes: oracle)miss_s_b ([personal profile] miss_s_b) wrote,
@ 2012-04-05 07:12 pm UTC
Current mood: contemplative
Entry tags:politics
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/88fhchg0tf/YG-Archives-FictionalCharactersVoting-050412.pdf

So YouGov did a survey on which party people think various fictional characters would vote for. From the little I know, I would suspect most of them are correct, but I want to talk about the one I know is definitely false, and the one I think is probably wrong.

Firstly, Victor Meldrew is definitely a Labour voter. This is canonical, he talks about it in the show, he reads the Daily Mirror onscreen on a regular basis, and in one episode is shown roundly abusing a Tory canvassar, and in another episode castigating a Tory politician in a hospital. So why do the majority of people think of him as a Tory?

There's a definite stereotype effect going on; most of the Tories are characters people don't like, or love to hate, and most of the Labour characters are seen as good fun but a bit thick. The one Lib Dem is the Vicar of Dibley - worthy, does good works and makes people happier, but is ultimately pretty powerless and someone to feel sorry for. So I think people put Victor Meldrew as a Tory because he's so bloody grumpy, and people see him as selfishly grumpy - but he's totally not. He's a tireless crusader against injustice, not just for himself, but for others (see the episode set in the Old People's home), and he has the Labourite's unshakeable conviction that the government ought to sort things out.

The other one that I think is a bit off is the Doctor. The biggest result for him is "wouldn't vote", which is probably correct, because I think the timelord maxim of non interference still has SOME traction on him... But then the next biggest is Green LOL! The Doctor is a scientist. The Greens, despite their hearts being in the right place, are totally wedded to woo. Add to that their occasional authoritarian tendencies and... no, the Doctor is a Lib Dem. I shall stubbornly cling to that belief.


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lonemagpie: guy from the cover of sanctuary (guy)


[personal profile] lonemagpie
2012-04-05 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Del Boy's an obvious Tory voter- he wants to be a yuppie, frequently quotes Gordon Gecko, etc...

The Doctor - it'd vary according to which incarnation and in which period. But, to be blunt, since he's not a British or EU citizen anyway, he wouldn't be allowed to!

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Who says he's not a citizen? He must have some sort of nationality and identity for tax and security purposes in the UNIT years. I can imagine him collecting citizenships like postage stamps -- "Oh yes, I'm a citizen of Britain... and of the Second French Republic, the Roman Empire, the Third Galactic Empire, Mondas (rather embarassing that one, rather not talk about it) and the E-Space Confederacy. And a gentleman to boot!"

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:15 pm UTC (link)
Also, McGann Doctor claims to be English.

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drunkwriter: Me in South Park form. (Default)


[personal profile] drunkwriter
2012-04-05 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Someone else claims he's English and he pauses and says: "Yes... I suppose I am." That's not quite the same thing.

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miss_s_b: (feminist heroes: oracle)


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:16 pm UTC (link)
And a gentleman to boot!

James asks does that mean someone should kick him? ;)

Your Pertwee Voice is quite scarily accurate.

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gominokouhai: (pajh)


[personal profile] gominokouhai
2012-04-05 07:30 pm UTC (link)
Shame it's a Hartnell quotation, then.

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:32 pm UTC (link)
Aye, but what's the point of a good quotation if you can't change it?

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but where Hartnell talked of being a citizen of the universe, Pertwee *would* list every single place he was a citizen of (including three he'd never been to and one that never existed).

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:52 pm UTC (link)
And add some comment about Venus while he was at it.

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gominokouhai: (pajh)


[personal profile] gominokouhai
2012-04-05 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Holy damn, you're right. And McCoy would have ID cards from all of them that would turn up when he was looking for something else.

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 08:06 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. They'd be in his hat.

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miss_s_b: (Who: Six (cybersex))


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:14 pm UTC (link)
I dunno, I think he must have had some sort of citizenship thing because he worked for UNIT.

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lonemagpie: guy from the cover of sanctuary (guy)


[personal profile] lonemagpie
2012-04-05 07:18 pm UTC (link)
I believe the term is "resident alien" (!) - in fact, IIRC that's actually mentioned specifically in Claws Of Axos

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miss_s_b: (Who: Three (Chuck))


[personal profile] miss_s_b
2012-04-05 07:23 pm UTC (link)
You realise I'm going to have to watch it again now...

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:27 pm UTC (link)
We can do that later if you like.

Spot of Delgado would go down quite well.

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[personal profile] matgb
2012-04-05 07:24 pm UTC (link)
He's from Gallifrey. Gallifrey's in Ireland. Irish citizens get a vote. QED

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innerbrat: (Leonardo)


[personal profile] innerbrat
2012-04-05 07:27 pm UTC (link)
Delboy's probably a swing voter. I reckon he consistently votes for "not this bloody lot again," which this year would be voting Labour.

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:33 pm UTC (link)
I think he's far too Thatcherite for that, even though he probably doesn't even know who's in government at the moment (a surprising number of people don't). He probably loved Mrs T (as he would call her) because she allowed him to buy his council flat (which he actually did in the series), and she reminded him of his good old mum.

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innerbrat: (i'm mocking you)


[personal profile] innerbrat
2012-04-05 07:34 pm UTC (link)
I miss that show so much. I may have to get some DVDs.

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Everywhere (Amazon, HMV etc) seem to have sales on at the moment on the box set of all the actual series, because there's a newer box set that includes the rubbish 1990s/2000s specials as well. If you can't find them over there, I'd gladly send one over to you, because it's only around twenty quid.

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innerbrat: (holy crap)


[personal profile] innerbrat
2012-04-05 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap, you're right!

...that's my Dad's birthday present sorted, then! Thanks for the heads up!

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 07:48 pm UTC (link)
No problem - just happened to notice huge stacks of them on offer in HMV the other day when I was buying some other DVDs (two Doctor Who stories,four Jimmy Stewart films and a four-DVD box set of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons for £36 the lot. This 'having a disposable income' thing is fun. I wish I'd tried it earlier).

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[personal profile] magister
2012-04-05 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Which Dr Who's were they?

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ext_51145: (National Pep)


[identity profile] andrewhickey.info
2012-04-05 08:20 pm UTC (link)
The Earth Story box, reduced to a tenner. Always had a soft spot for The Gunfighters, though quite what the connection is to The Awakening I don't know...

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[personal profile] innerbrat
2012-04-05 08:00 pm UTC (link)
It's great, innit?

...I am promptly throwing all my disposable income - of which I don't have much - at roller skating at the moment.

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