Date: Friday, April 13th, 2012 01:09 pm (UTC)
ginasketch: (feathers)
From: [personal profile] ginasketch
I see. That makes sense.

I don't have a problem with the word myself, as I've noticed people don't use it very often for women, or they assume that we are emotional but not logical (don't get me started on how infuriating it is for people to see emotion as "bad" or that "emotional intelligence" doesn't exist.)

Date: Saturday, April 14th, 2012 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bagpuss
Its interesting that the thing that irritated me about the first link (not that is isn't making a fair point about women not being recognised for their abilities) was that it seemed to imply that women can be "intelligent" too but not in science but more subjective things. I suspect this is my problem rather than the person who wrote the post but it is upsetting as a person working in what are traditionally considered male dominated fields

Date: Saturday, April 14th, 2012 08:20 am (UTC)
ginasketch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ginasketch
Hm. I didn't read it that way- I know a lot more women are pushed into the humanities precisely because those things are seen by society as "soft" (grr). Conversely, I wonder if a lot of men are pushed into sciences because it's what is expected of them.

I wish gender stereotyping didn't exist.


Finally, our society privileges the sciences over the humanities and the arts, and factual knowledge over both raw intelligence (which is more about speed and ability to learn, understand, and synthesize) and emotional/social intelligence. And yet, women are less likely to go into the sciences, less likely to offer up their knowledge in conversation, and more likely to be encouraged to focus on emotional intelligence.


What I got from this is she is pointing out the double standard- women are encouraged to steer away from science because they're often seen by society as "emotional."

The daft thing is, everyone is a combination of logical and emotional thinking, though the way some people scream about it you'd think they'd been told to set fire to themselves for admitting it.

Date: Saturday, April 14th, 2012 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bagpuss
I am certain there is a double standard and many women are encouraged to do "soft" things not of course these things are necessarily any less good or rewarding but they tend to carry less prestige with them of course

Everyone of course sits somewhere on a variety of different scales, the peaks of those scales might be different from different genders but there are certainly people of all genders at every point on these

People do like the scream about these things. At a work dinner one of my colleagues make a statement about men and women being fundamentally different and the timing meant I really didn't think it was the time to ask for clarification to find out what they meant by that which on one level is a shame as it would be good to know

Always nice to see another scientist though it feels like I mostly do project management these days

Date: Saturday, April 14th, 2012 08:21 am (UTC)
ginasketch: (smug)
From: [personal profile] ginasketch
Also, fellow scientist here! *waves*

About This Blog

picture of Jennie Rigg

Hello! I'm Jennie (known to many as SB, due to my handle, or The Yorksher Gob because of my old blog's name). This blog is my public face; click here for a list of all the other places you can find me on t'interwebs.






Flattr this

Ebuzzing - Top Blogs Ebuzzing - Top Blogs - Politics





==================
Charities I support:

The Survivors' Trust - donate here
DogsTrust - donate here
CAB - donate here

==================


Creative Commons License
Miss SB by Jennie Rigg is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-No Derivative Works 2.0 UK: England & Wales License.
Based on a work at miss-s-b.dreamwidth.org.

Please note that any and all opinions expressed in this blog are subject to random change at whim my own, and not necessarily representative of my party, or any of the constituent parts thereof (except myself, obviously).

Printed by Dreamwidth Studios, Maryland USA. Promoted by Jennie Rigg, of Brighouse, West Yorkshire.

October 2014

M T W T F S S
   1 2 3 45
6 7 8 9 10 1112
131415 16 17 1819
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31  

Most Popular Tags

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags

Style Credit

Page generated Friday, October 31st, 2014 11:40 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios