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I'm filling in a meme on a DW community, and it's asking me what other fandoms I'm involved with aside from the one the comm is based around. And it got me thinking (possibly because I have been reading The Wee Yin's tumblr too much, and she definitely treats politics as a fandom) - does politics count as a fandom?

Poll #12355 Politics as a fandom?
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: Just the Poll Creator, participants: 22

Does politics count as a fandom?

Hell yes
14 (63.6%)

Ew no
4 (18.2%)

What the hell are you talking about?
0 (0.0%)

Snowflake
4 (18.2%)

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 12:17 pm (UTC)
el_staplador: Pen-and-ink drawing of a group sledging. Behind them, eight people signal 'YULETIDE' in semaphore, reading right to left (yuletide)
From: [personal profile] el_staplador
EVERYTHING IS A FANDOM.

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 12:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] http://www.nickbarlow.com/blog/
And it just occurred to me that factional arguments in the Lib Dems are arguments over canon - 'No! Hayek was never canon, but of course Beveridge is!'

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sassy_scot
Well, I did compare a Doctor Who Convention to Lib Dem conference this weekend...

There are definitely similarities, passion, sharing of ideas - and there is a dark, misogynist side to fandom that reflects not only politics but the whole of society. However, having just spent the weekend in a place where it didn't matter what gender, sexuality, background, race, religion etc that you had, a place that was hospitable to new ideas and full of positivity and passion, I'd say there are some elements of the fandom that we need more of in politics.

Fans can also be very critical of writers and producers in much the same way as Lib Dems can be critical of leaders. I'm not in any way suggesting this is a bad thing.

Interesting thought.

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 02:14 pm (UTC)
rmc28: Photo of me shortly before starting my first half-marathon (Default)
From: [personal profile] rmc28
When I was convincing Tony to come to LibDem Conference, I described it as "like an sf con, only for politics".

The main difference of course is that the actions of politicians have real-world effects, whereas the actions of, say, Tony Stark & Bruce Banner do not. Well, apart from persuading a lot of people to go to the cinema, buy DVDs, write fanfic that helped keep me sane this year .... So some real-world effects; but do they compare to benefits caps, drug reform, equal marriage ?

Politics has bigger / more widespread effects?

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 12:40 pm (UTC)
etoile: (Pouty Del is Pouty)
From: [personal profile] etoile
I can see why people would think of it that way but what happens in say, Doctor Who, doesn't affect whether I can get medical treatment or how often the bins get collected. It shouldn't be a niche interest for a few people to squee over but if some squee gets more folk involved, then I'm okay with it.

On a personal and only vaguely related level, fanfiction featuring real people, not just characters, really squicks me out but that might be because I've had someone very publicly rewrite my life to entertain themselves and it wasn't pleasant.

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] perlmonger
Yes, but Fandom-as-insane-factional-tribalism, which (as someone who's only ever been right on, or rather just outside, the edges of fandom and thus is a dispassionate and entirely unbiased observer «hem.») is only a small, if loud, portion of fandom-as-a-whole.

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Yes, absolutely. There are very few fannish behaviors not present in politics.

(And if Snapewives exist in politics fandom, I don't want to know.)

Date: Monday, December 17th, 2012 10:19 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: Azz and best friend grabbing each other's noses.  (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I remember [livejournal.com profile] rahmbamarama fondly. (US politics RPF.)

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