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I see variations of the words in the title of this post multiple times a day. Most often they are followed by a link to the offending article, and that really grinds my gears. I never click the link. Never. D'you know why?

Because EVERY pageview is a pageview they can sell to advertisers.
EVERY discussion that mentions them, whether positively or negatively, is buzz that they can sell to advertisers.

Why do you think the Daily Mail is the biggest "news" site in the world? It's not just because people approve of the crap they write. It's because people DISapprove of the crap they write, but still link to it saying "isn't this awful crap in the Daily Mail awful crap?". It's the same reason the BBC keep inviting known racist and bad historian David Starkey back onto Question Time: because every time he's on, twitter explodes with fury about whatever racist stupid inaccurate thing he said this time. It's buzz. It's eyeballs.

Now, I am perfectly happy for the ideas mentioned in Daily Mail articles to be demolished for the illiberal, homophobic, transphobic, racist utter bullshit they most often are. More than perfectly happy; I think it's extremely necessary. But to do that by linking to them, by sending them eyeballs, by creating buzz about them? That totally defeats the object. I want the Daily Mail and it's poisonous worldview to die. For that to happen we have to not only attack the ideas they promulgate, but also stop giving them the traffic they desperately want.

The Daily Mail doesn't care if you read it nodding with approval, or read it in a fulminating rage. They only care that you read it, and that you make them money by so doing, either directly or indirectly from advertisers (and I'm not even going to go into the total illogicality of the people who actually BUY the damn rag to tut over it and say how awful it is).

I realise that I am probably being a bit of a Canute here, but can those of us who stand against everything that horrible organ stands for PLEASE stop giving them what they want? That'd be lovely.

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 09:21 am (UTC)
davegodfrey: Marvin: ...and me with a terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side... (Marvin)
From: [personal profile] davegodfrey
I was brought up to be a scientist. I'm supposed to cite my sources. :(

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davegodfrey
I know. If I write something taking something they've written apart (like when I've done the occasional round-up of "new dinosaur in the media, guess who can get the most wrong") I want people to be able to read the original source so I know that I'm not misrepresenting them. GAAHHHHH!!!!!

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 11:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ginasketch
Isn't there a page you can go to that makes a copy of the actual page so that it gives them no clicks? Someone help me out here, I know I've seen it before.

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 09:42 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
Agreed. It's the most egregious example of its kind, though there are plenty who aspire to their outrage=page views attitude. I will link to people criticising something they said, but never to the articles.

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sassy_scot
I do think some of the crap they spout must be challenged - and if we don't take it apart, who else will?

For example, that bullshit full mosque/empty churches stuff the other day. I did blog about that.

I have listened to what you've said on this before and I now challenge them but don't put a link in.

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 02:02 pm (UTC)
ginasketch: (bamf snape)
From: [personal profile] ginasketch
Not to mention everytime Samantha Brick writes a column everyone just falls for the troll bait.

Date: Monday, June 3rd, 2013 01:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akicif
On a complete sidetrack - you would be being a bit of a Canute if you were certain that your post would have no effect and indeed you were making it only to demonstrate this....

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