Date: Thursday, May 21st, 2015 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thamesynne
I think our news media will be ecstatic, frankly. It means they've won; newspaper sales might be declining, but media power blazes brighter than ever, bright enough to ensnare an entire generation.

The next 30 years are going to be unbearably right wing, unless something changes quickly. :(

Date: Thursday, May 21st, 2015 04:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
I hadn't realized how late affirmation became available for MPs; it's in the U.S. constitution as an alternative to oaths of office, because of the Quaker influence. Connected to which, most Americans think of "so help me God" as part of the presidential oath of office; George Washington put it in when he took office, and most presidents since have followed; Herbert Hoover, as a Quaker, didn't. (I don't know whether Nixon said "so help me God," but I heard ages ago that he had been read out of Meeting for prosecuting the Vietnam War.)

Date: Thursday, May 21st, 2015 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thamesynne
Coincidentally, I happened to read an article the other day that detailed the history of the particular Quaker tradition in which Nixon had been raised. The gist of the article (which is here) was that it had come under the sway of the revivalist movement, and as a result had "gone fundie", and now regarded the more traditional liberal, pacifist Quaker as "the enemy within" - a mode of thinking that translated directly into the way he approached first the prosecution of Alger Hiss and then his presidency.

Extrapolating from that, I think it might have been more of a surprise had he skipped the "so help me God" bit.

Date: Thursday, May 21st, 2015 06:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Thank you!

It's still morning (here), and I have learned something today.

Date: Thursday, May 21st, 2015 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
but I heard ages ago that he had been read out of Meeting for prosecuting the Vietnam War

I don’t know much about Quakerism but didn’t Nixon end the Viet Nam War?

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