miss_s_b: (Politics: Democracy)
[personal profile] miss_s_b
The problem is best summed up in a tweet by lovely Neill Cameron:
People grab at authoritarianism in times of uncertainty, meaning the worse the tories fuck everything up the more they are rewarded.
We Lib Dems have gained a little, but not enough.
The Labour voters who deserted Labour for UKIP haven't gone home to Labour, they've voted Tory.
Labour activists telling everyone who disagrees with Corbyn to "fuck off and join the tories then" have been more successful than they could have known.
UKIP have been "wiped out" by having the Tories adopt their policy platform wholesale, which is not my definition of a wipeout, but...

But really, the stark problem is that the more the Tories cause chaos and uncertainty, the more the electorate cling to them, so the more they have a massive incentive to keep on causing choas and uncertainty. The urge to "always keep a hold of nurse for fear of finding something worse" appears to hold even when nurse is beating the living daylights out of you and screaming imprecations. Partly, I suspect, because lots of people think that even that nurse is better than being eaten by the Labour lion. The Tories have to look worse than Labour to lose, because enough MPs and activists are still clinging to the corpse of the Labour party that even at this low ebb they still look like a better bet than us.

It's at this point where you're expecting me to pull a solution out, isn't it? I don't have one.

God, I'm depressed.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 08:28 am (UTC)
cedara: (Politics)
From: [personal profile] cedara
Yeah, you got every reason to be depressed. It's a shame that Labour lost its spine and the LibDems aren't attractive enough for the voters. However, I would love to know details in numbers, meaning, how much the Tories profited from Majority Voting.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 08:39 am (UTC)
cedara: (Politics)
From: [personal profile] cedara

Confirms what I suspected. This is exactly the reason why I love the German voting system. Aren't perfect either, but it largely supports cooperative political behaviour, i.e. coalitions.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 08:57 am (UTC)
hilarita: trefoil carving (Default)
From: [personal profile] hilarita
I keep hoping that if Labour get kicked enough in FPTP, they might go for something more sensible. If Labour does tear itself into two, then without some form of proportional thing they're completely doomed.

I agree also that the UKIP drop is a mixed blessing. It's only because the Tories have camped out on their policy space, not because people don't like UKIP policies any more.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 05:15 pm (UTC)
po8crg: A cartoon of me, wearing a panama hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] po8crg
The problem is that when they want it, they can't deliver and when they can deliver, they don't want it.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 08:59 am (UTC)
cedara: (Politics)
From: [personal profile] cedara
Sadly so.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 08:30 am (UTC)
st_aurafina: Katara hugging her grandmother (Avatar: Katara hugs)
From: [personal profile] st_aurafina
*hugs* It's been a pretty shit day all around in politics.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 10:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sfred

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 11:49 am (UTC)
sir_guinglain: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sir_guinglain
There are I fear a good few results like this. From the Oxford Mail:

Charles Matthew has held onto Eynsham for the Conservatives by the skin of his teeth. He won 1,716 votes to the Lib Dems' 1,621. Last time around the Lib Dems won just 300 votes.

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 12:24 pm (UTC)
angelofthenorth: (Wales)
From: [personal profile] angelofthenorth
We didn't do too badly - we're currently the largest party on carms county council although some of the Labour wards haven't declared. But Labour seems to be collapsing in the areas that have been declared...

Date: Friday, May 5th, 2017 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Laura again.

See you in Scotland. Because we're fucked :'(

Date: Saturday, May 6th, 2017 10:13 am (UTC)
tree_and_leaf: Isolated tree in leaf, against blue sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
It's utterly depressing.

Date: Sunday, May 7th, 2017 07:43 am (UTC)
norfolkian: Holtzmann from Ghostbusters licking a gun (Default)
From: [personal profile] norfolkian
It was very depressing. The West Midlands now has a Tory mayor. Great. :/

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