Date: Friday, May 19th, 2017 12:05 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
Indeed, I think the three supportive-of-the-Union parties in Scotland have taken a pretty unequivocal line on independence and become Unionist parties and the centre-left indy leaning members will have already headed off to the SNP or the Scottish Greens.

No one appears to be able to out Union the Tories. I think the Scottish Lib Dems have failed to articulate their position of a federal Britain with much more local devolution. I think this is largely because there is sceptism of that policy in England for England

What I'm watching to see is if centre-left voters Unionist voters decide that the SNP is fundamentally right and the only way to get a centre-left Scotland is for Scotland to be independent and that they would prefer a centre-left Scotland to a centre-right Union. I, personally, think that's the determining factor about whether Scotland becomes independent in the next 10-15 years or not.

And that's why the SNP are determined on destroying the Labour Party.

Date: Saturday, May 20th, 2017 09:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
I think you're right. The Scottish Lib Dems have done three things which have hurt them:
1) Made Unionism a matter of principle.
2) The Coalition.
3) Carmichael.

If the SNP didn't exist then they probably would be recovering from (2) and (3). But as it is there's a perfectly functional "Nice Party" which everyone can vote for instead.

Which is a shame, because there are SNP policies I disagree with, and would like more LibDem influence on.

Date: Saturday, May 20th, 2017 07:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Quite possibly. And the SNP have been very good on LGBT issues, in my experience. But not so good on the police. And terrible on sex work.

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