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Mat and I have had our first ever proper shouting argument. I thought you'd all like to know.

As predicted it was about something very silly - I had done some tidying up and he put something in a place I didn't want it to go, and I got cross because he had marred my tidying up, and he didn't understand why I was cross because he thought he was tidying too, and then I got upset because I couldn't make him understand why I was cross, and then he got cross because he couldn't understand, and before you know it we're both shouting at each other... Yeah. Very silly. But it shows how easily these things happen, especially when I am in the fretful mood I have been in today. The sooner Wednesday night is over the happier I'll be...

Anyway. We have clung weeping to each other and apologised, and hugged and kissed and apologised some more, and then made each other laugh with silly hats and such, and everything is all right now. He has commandeered my comfy office chair and is playing his silly computer game, and I am in bed listening to classic rock and playing about on LJ.

I could do with a very large brandy, though. I might go and get one...

ETA: a couple of minutes ago the computer game noise stopped. I looked up to see why and Mat was waving the brandy bottle at me.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordite.livejournal.com
*hug*

Even though I have no idea why, I'll hope Thursday comes swiftly for you :)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Going to Ros Scott's "thank my campaigners" party at Brian Eno's studio. It will be full of people who are My Betters. I will have to put splints behind my legs to stop myself curtseying.

I'm utterly crapping myself because I am Not Good Enough and Mat doesn't understand that either, because he thinks I am awesome and can't understand why I feel like I am not good enough, and he knows lots of the people who will be there and thinks that means I don't have to be nervous about meeting them.

(edited for awful spelling)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordite.livejournal.com
I can understand that totally. It's hard enough meeting new people, harder still when they're a rung or three up the social ladder but even so unless they're a bunch of complete wankers, then they're not going to look down their nose at you or ask you to fetch them another canapé.

They'll love you for the awesome and generally shiny person that you are and if they don't, spit on their vol-au-vents before serving :P

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Lord Rennard will be there. Vince Cable too. I think if I squint REALLY hard I might just see the rung of the ladder they are on...

Even if Vince is horrible to me, I don't think I could spit on his vol-au-vent... I'm more worried about being a horribly sycophantic fangirl.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
You could try seducing him. I'm sure he won't mind that much.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
I have that problem at conferences. If there's a bunch of PhD students knocking I find it much easier, because I can talk to them without feeling awkward, they're only a rung or so up the ladder. If there aren't any I just hide in a corner and don't talk to anyone. Which has a whole series of its own problems. :(

I'm sure they'll have interesting things to ask you, after all Vince and co probably don't get to talk to the grass-roots campaigners that often.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addyit.livejournal.com
shouting is wonderful.

at someone you love, slightly less... but necessary.

i'm glad the milestone is reached. :-)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes, at least we don't have it looming over us in the future any more.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ponygirl72.livejournal.com
Congratulations. You got through it!

Still waiting for our first, 12-and-a-bit years in. We only ever do quiet, tense sniping while shaking with suppressed rage.

I have a feeling that if the shouty argument ever happens, it will be Very, Very Bad.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
I suspect you're right about that.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] prolificdiarist.livejournal.com
*cuddles*

Your post-argument sounds aw (I like the hats!) & I like that Mat waved brandy at your shortly after you were considering getting one :)

Kx

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] el-staplador.livejournal.com
Hurrah! - it had to happen, so it's a good thing it was over so quickly.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norfolkian.livejournal.com
Ian and I have not had a proper shouty argument yet - we just get irritated with each other. The one time we came close to shouting I burst in tears because I was mortified that I'd upset Ian enough to make him raise his voice (which is so rare!). And that was over something silly too!

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmoodie.livejournal.com
Ah yes, it's always the silly little things that get these tiffs started, especially when you're in an angsty mood to begin with. I'm sure it won't be the last row you have, but it's good it's taken this long to have your first! :)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
I like reading your journal... it's refreshingly frank. Thanks for adding me as a friend and making me part of the filter.

>As predicted it was about something very silly
I think almost every argument on planet earth, be it between two lovers or two arch-enemy nations are about something very silly... unbelieveable how they can flare up into such big things! Glad youse sorted it out amicably. Now I know brandy is your weakness...

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes, most arguments are about things which people could easily live with if they chose.

* hug *

Thank you for reading.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliophile1887.livejournal.com
Kirk and I don't shout. Haven't had a real argument, yet. Did have a disagreement a few weeks ago that did end up with some hurt feelings, but we talked about it like adults and moved on. Because that's what you do.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordite.livejournal.com
*hug*

Even though I have no idea why, I'll hope Thursday comes swiftly for you :)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Going to Ros Scott's "thank my campaigners" party at Brian Eno's studio. It will be full of people who are My Betters. I will have to put splints behind my legs to stop myself curtseying.

I'm utterly crapping myself because I am Not Good Enough and Mat doesn't understand that either, because he thinks I am awesome and can't understand why I feel like I am not good enough, and he knows lots of the people who will be there and thinks that means I don't have to be nervous about meeting them.

(edited for awful spelling)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordite.livejournal.com
I can understand that totally. It's hard enough meeting new people, harder still when they're a rung or three up the social ladder but even so unless they're a bunch of complete wankers, then they're not going to look down their nose at you or ask you to fetch them another canapé.

They'll love you for the awesome and generally shiny person that you are and if they don't, spit on their vol-au-vents before serving :P

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Lord Rennard will be there. Vince Cable too. I think if I squint REALLY hard I might just see the rung of the ladder they are on...

Even if Vince is horrible to me, I don't think I could spit on his vol-au-vent... I'm more worried about being a horribly sycophantic fangirl.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
You could try seducing him. I'm sure he won't mind that much.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
I have that problem at conferences. If there's a bunch of PhD students knocking I find it much easier, because I can talk to them without feeling awkward, they're only a rung or so up the ladder. If there aren't any I just hide in a corner and don't talk to anyone. Which has a whole series of its own problems. :(

I'm sure they'll have interesting things to ask you, after all Vince and co probably don't get to talk to the grass-roots campaigners that often.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addyit.livejournal.com
shouting is wonderful.

at someone you love, slightly less... but necessary.

i'm glad the milestone is reached. :-)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes, at least we don't have it looming over us in the future any more.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ponygirl72.livejournal.com
Congratulations. You got through it!

Still waiting for our first, 12-and-a-bit years in. We only ever do quiet, tense sniping while shaking with suppressed rage.

I have a feeling that if the shouty argument ever happens, it will be Very, Very Bad.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
I suspect you're right about that.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:05 am (UTC)
ext_28046: (Default)
From: [identity profile] prolificdiarist.livejournal.com
*cuddles*

Your post-argument sounds aw (I like the hats!) & I like that Mat waved brandy at your shortly after you were considering getting one :)

Kx

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:16 am (UTC)
ext_27872: (Default)
From: [identity profile] el-staplador.livejournal.com
Hurrah! - it had to happen, so it's a good thing it was over so quickly.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norfolkian.livejournal.com
Ian and I have not had a proper shouty argument yet - we just get irritated with each other. The one time we came close to shouting I burst in tears because I was mortified that I'd upset Ian enough to make him raise his voice (which is so rare!). And that was over something silly too!

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmoodie.livejournal.com
Ah yes, it's always the silly little things that get these tiffs started, especially when you're in an angsty mood to begin with. I'm sure it won't be the last row you have, but it's good it's taken this long to have your first! :)

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgillianaire.livejournal.com
I like reading your journal... it's refreshingly frank. Thanks for adding me as a friend and making me part of the filter.

>As predicted it was about something very silly
I think almost every argument on planet earth, be it between two lovers or two arch-enemy nations are about something very silly... unbelieveable how they can flare up into such big things! Glad youse sorted it out amicably. Now I know brandy is your weakness...

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
Yes, most arguments are about things which people could easily live with if they chose.

* hug *

Thank you for reading.

Date: Monday, November 17th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliophile1887.livejournal.com
Kirk and I don't shout. Haven't had a real argument, yet. Did have a disagreement a few weeks ago that did end up with some hurt feelings, but we talked about it like adults and moved on. Because that's what you do.

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