miss_s_b: (Sci-fi: McCoy)
[personal profile] miss_s_b
First new Trek series in more than 20 years! And I'm happy to report I really loved it, although I had a couple of niggles:
  • I was really uncomfortable with most of the Klingons being extremely black apart from the outcast saviour who was very white. White saviour is not a good look for a series proudly touting its diversity.
  • As pointed out by daughter, the Klingons speak like people struggling with a second language, not fast, fluent native-language speakers.
  • The Klingons are even more wildly bumpy headed than in DS9; they should be reasonably human looking at this point, surely? Also a bunch of other continutity niggles, some of which are settled by this apparently being New Films universe rather than ToS universe.
  • The theme tune is a bit shit - although not as shit as Enterprise - and this is only made more obvious by the stings from the original at the beginning and end.
  • It's all a bit human-centric, again.
  • It was a bit expositionny in the first episode
The list of things I loved is longer:
  • I cannot overemphasise how important it is that the two lead characters in the first two episodes are not just women, but non-white women. I'd like this to be a thing that is unremarkable, but for right now it is utterly remarkable, and so I am going to remark upon it.
  • I loved that Michael is called Michael, with no explanation or anybody commenting on it, it's just her name.
  • The opening titles were scifi without being endless space scenes. I mean, I like endless space scenes, but this was a clever way of being different.
  • The sound field was gloriously complex and comfortingly familiar at the same time: those little sonar pings on the bridge OMG
  • Klingon language subtitles!
  • The set dressing: for instance, in Captain Georgiou's ready room there is a bottle of Chateau Picard wine and a load of books with very familiar titles.
  • Michael's clear, Kirkish yearning for and joy in exploration, and her excitement and wonder at the beauty of the universe.
  • Actual characters with actual plausible motivations, and none of them being perfect!
  • Naming the admiral after the lead singer from Suede LOL (although thanks to [personal profile] lizbee he will be forever known as Admiral Whitedude McDickhead in my brain now).
  • Michelle Yeoh! Badass but gentle, soldier but diplomat, drily humorous but deadly serious... And she has the Colin Baker habit of having microexpressions flit across her face twice a second. SUCH a good actress. I hope she comes back in flashbacks and things.
  • it looks stunning: the effects are good, and the costumes are lovely, and everything feels very rich and cinematic

All in all, a solid start and I am actually excited to see how it goes from here.

Date: Tuesday, September 26th, 2017 11:06 am (UTC)
xevokitty: (Clips - Medical - Dr House)
From: [personal profile] xevokitty
the Klingons speak like people struggling with a second language, not fast, fluent native-language speakers.

I'd chalked that up to the more reptilian mouth structure, but yea, I *did* notice that.


The Klingons are even more wildly bumpy headed than in DS9; they should be reasonably human looking at this point, surely?

There's actually a canon explanation: the klingons tampered with the augment virus sometime between the timeframe of Discovery and the timeframe of TOS. Looks like it was covered in the Enterprise series. link

Date: Sunday, October 1st, 2017 01:35 pm (UTC)
xevokitty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] xevokitty
You're welcome! :)

Date: Tuesday, September 26th, 2017 02:18 pm (UTC)
sfred: (andromeda)
From: [personal profile] sfred
I'm very much looking forward to watching it.

Date: Sunday, October 1st, 2017 04:49 pm (UTC)
sfred: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sfred
I've seen the first episode and I really liked it!

Date: Sunday, October 1st, 2017 10:00 pm (UTC)
sfred: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sfred
Seen both now. Wow!

Date: Wednesday, September 27th, 2017 04:47 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Well, these are the xenophobic blood purist Klingons, so... possible hypothesis: This is how Klingons originally looked, Kirk's Klingons were always weird genetic misfit outcasts, the great houses had less of this scourge than the rest of the Klingon population, and then by Worf's time they, um, had all integrated into one unified look again? More or less?

Yeah, doesn't work unless we ditch Enterprise, but still.

Date: Sunday, October 1st, 2017 04:10 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Sure. Go for it. The takeaway here is "Ent Klingons looked like TNG Klingons".

Date: Saturday, September 30th, 2017 07:02 am (UTC)
norfolkian: Holtzmann from Ghostbusters licking a gun (Default)
From: [personal profile] norfolkian
I agree with pretty much all of this. And Admiral Whitedude McDickhead made me LOL. :D

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