Date: Friday, January 11th, 2019 12:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Incidentally

These regulations summon up a hilarious picture of the BBFC trying to work out whether any given porn site gets over the magic 1/3 porn, 2/3rd kitten gifs ratio.

Date: Friday, January 11th, 2019 01:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
They do realise that "amount of material available" is not a coherent concept? It's trivial for a site to make an effectively-infinite quantity of material available.

Start with one pretty black-and-white kitten pic.
Now have a page recoloured-kittens.cgi?shade=00ff00 (that one is tastelessly bright green).

You now have 16777216 kitten pics, all different! Hurrah!


Date: Friday, January 11th, 2019 01:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
Note to pornmongers: I will happily implement this for you for very reasonable rates.

Homophobic Oxford Don

Date: Friday, January 11th, 2019 02:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] legionseagle
I'm not sure that it makes sense talking about John Finnis on free speech grounds at all - that is, I think the article you linked to was really useful but didn't go nearly far enough, specifically that I think limiting criticism of Finnis to his views on homosexuality is overlooking what a malignant and batshit presence he has been on the scene since I was forced to study him back in 1982 (I almost ended up in the Warneford, and his book had a lot to do with my depression, honestly.)

Back in 1982, of course, he didn't bother saying much about homosexuality, because it was pretty much taken as read that his position was the mainstream one (bearing in mind that the impetus behind including s.28 in the 1988 Local Government Act was that following the dissolution of the GLC by Thatcher a number of individual London boroughs who were that way inclined led a charge in favour of various social justice objectives including gay rights, fair trade and so forth (there are provisions in the LGA 1988 which are aimed just as squarely against including issues such as modern slavery, apartheid, fair trade and so forth in local government decision making as s.28 was against gay rights.)

Back in 1982 his big thing was upholding the sexual morality of the ultra-trad wing of the Catholic Church by reference to natural law, so that mainly affected women. And I don't just mean abortion; I mean contraception and a range of other areas (including whether to save the baby or the mother should the situation arise.)

In fact, his position on homosexuality (and, for that matter, masturbation and bestiality) is driven by his moral philosophy which is basically that there are natural "goods" which exist as a moral fact and against which man-made laws can be analysed.

His book, Natural Law and Natural Rights which was a set text, includes specific consideration of "Given that legal obligation presumptively entails a moral obligation, and that the legal system is by and large just, does a particular unjust law impose upon me any moral obligation to
conform to it?"

He's a bit hazy about his answer to that, actually (it comes down to "broadly, yes, but only up a point", the placing of the point being left as an exercise for the reader), but I'm fairly certain that based on his legal theories as expressed in his writings quite a lot of the Equality Act 2010 (inter alia) is something he sees as an unjust law.

How is this not a free speech issue?

Well, at its lowest up until 2010 he was law tutor at his college and therefore responsible for admissions as well as the moral welfare of those students of whom he was also the moral tutor.

He will have taken his turn on the Board of Examiners whenever that came round. He remains a compulsory aspect of the higher law degree syllabus.

As a result, within Oxford it's not precisely a question like "Should I be expected to read Mein Kampf as part of my politics course?" (which is the level of discussion which most of the Freeze Peach lot are coming at it from) but "Should I be expected to have my opinions of Mein Kampf ruled on by A.Hitler, in person, as a pre-condition of my getting a degree?

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