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Last night, as part of the FFW, there was a screening of a film called The Scar Crow, and a Q&A session with cast and crew afterwards. The film had great effects and was beautifully and creatively shot, especially given the tiny budget and shooting timescale, but it just REEKED of misogyny. I can't give specifics without spoilers, but I had many, many problems with the film. Now, you can say this about a lot of films, including many that I really love. But the classic Hammer/Amicus/etc. films get something of a pass due to being made 30, 40, 50 years ago. This film was made last year. The ONLY named female characters were "evil", apart from the "sympathetic character" - i.e. the one who deserves a Well Done For Not Being A Rapist Cookie - 's girlfriend, who was merely peripheral AND stupid. There's an incestuous "lesbian" kiss, which the director stated in the Q&A he had put in because his 12 year old son had asked for some hot lesbo action.

And you know what?

Even as I type this I can feel the internet's reaction to me criticising the film for these reasons. It's just one film - it's not systemic. Not all films are like that! - just like not all men are like that. Well, YOU might have been offended, but I wasn't, and therefore it's not a problem. So you're saying we ought to ban films with hot lesbo action/films with female bad guys/etc. I thought you were a liberal?

etc. etc. et fucking cetera.

It's not just systemic in horror (and yes, I DID have an audible intake of breath when the director claimed to have been subverting expectations by shooting a gore flick with evil women and hot lesbo action in it). It's not just systemic in films. It's not just endemic in entertainment. It's endemic in life.

Are we all ready for the chorus of Oh, you're exaggerating! I don't know anyone who finds this a problem, girls? Boys, I hate to break this to you, but perhaps nobody has told you they find this sort of shit a problem because they know what your reaction will be. Do you ever find yourself thinking well harrassment/sexual assault/rape can't be that much of a problem because I don't know anyone who has been harrassed/assaulted/raped? I bet you a tenner that you do. For starters, if you know me, you do.

And do you know what? Even with all that said, I wouldn't want to ban films like this. I'd just like to live in a world where I can make this sort of criticism without having to pre-emptively defend myself against accusations of being a strident whinging harpie. I'd settle for that, but it'd be even nicer if I could go and see a gore flick where it's the men who are relentlessly objectified, and the women who are held forth as praiseworthy for not being rapists... Not because I think reverse discrimination is in any way the way forward, but just because it would be SUCH a fucking novelty.

Using the icon I have is a defensive action too. It's saying I know that women are objectified on the basis of their bodies, and I know it happens to me, and I can cope with it. It's saying I realise that I am part of the problem here. It's saying look, even though I have been raped, I have a sense of humour about stuff like this.

Yeah, I'm in a really good mood today.

Thanks to [personal profile] puddingcat for pointing me at most of the articles I link to.

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Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 12:58 pm (UTC)
bagpuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bagpuss
Its a shame its very difficult to get round the network execubots

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 01:22 pm (UTC)
innerbrat: (thing)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
And yet an independent film should have no such excuses.

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
bagpuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bagpuss
other than independent films still need to be distributed and the distributors have to do what the network execubots says

If you read the comments apparently William Goldman have a term for this, films like say Juno are non recurring phenomenon so never change the general opinion of the network execubots

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bagpuss
as a note I would love to be able to change this it would improve cinema no end but I don't know how to go about it

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 02:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
I love that term 'non-recurring phenomenon' in a way that is entirely not loving it. On Saturday night, we saw Aliens, and [personal profile] matgb wondered if any one movie could be said to have inspired so much pop culture.

And yet, there has still only ever been one Ripley.

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 02:52 pm (UTC)
bagpuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bagpuss
there also is Sarah Conner of course

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
This is true, but it's very telling that she's completely motivated by her relationship to John, isn't even in the most recent movie, and the TV series bearing her name has been cancelled to make way for that movie.

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 03:06 pm (UTC)
innerbrat: (heart + stomach)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
As a CHARACTER. Not even as an object. Do they not even notice this while loving her?

Date: Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ginasketch
You pretty much know my opinion on this, and anyone who starts whining that Ripley is a "man."

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot only men could be strong characters/kickass. snarl.

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